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Run the Numbers
Stack Overflow's CFO Matt Gallatin on "Burning the Ships”

Stack Overflow's CFO Matt Gallatin on "Burning the Ships”


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In this episode, CJ is joined by Matt Gallatin, CFO of Stack Overflow, the largest online community for developers and one of the most popular websites in the world. They cover the impact of doing SaaS 101 learning sessions with departments across the org, how CFOs can get involved in customer lifecycle reviews, CFO career stories that demonstrate high stress decision-making in action, and more.  If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite:


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(00:00) Preview

(02:25) Sponsors: NetSuite by Oracle | Thoropass

(05:05) Tying Together the SaaS Model for the Whole Company

(06:54) SaaS 101 Sessions

(09:36) Understanding SaaS Metrics

(13:51) Customer Life Cycle Review

(17:16) Sponsor: Maxio

(18:29) Matt’s Bold Decision at Drawbridge

(25:57) The Aftermath and Lessons Learned from that Decision

(27:33) Not All Revenue is Created Equal

(28:14) Understanding Business Growth and Trajectory

(29:55) Using Public Companies As Aspirational Benchmarks

(37:59) Digging Into S1s

(40:30) Matt’s Favorite Benchmark Reports

(43:50) CFOs are like NFL Coaching Trees

(48:20) Matt’s Finance Software Stack Brought to you by Tropic

(50:51) Wrap

Mostly metrics
Run the Numbers
Run the Numbers is a twice-weekly podcast about financial metrics and business models, designed for ambitious people operating tech startups. It's a collection of things host CJ Gustafson (CFO at Partstech and writer of Mostly Metrics) has learned and thought about in the trenches as a tech CFO.
This show is meant to serve as a playbook of sorts for the stuff CJ wishes he knew earlier in his career, both from experience and from copying people smarter than himself.
Topics frequently touch upon Startup SaaS Metrics, Annual Budgeting, Financial Forecasting, Headcount, Equity, Dilution, and Fundraising – and how all of these drive business performance and growth.