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E3: Netflix Co-Founder Jim Cook Shares the Secrets to Being a Great CFO

E3: Netflix Co-Founder Jim Cook Shares the Secrets to Being a Great CFO

This week on Run The Numbers, host CJ Gustafson is joined by an all-time great: Jim Cook, one of the six original co-founders of Netflix. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: 



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The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.



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(00:00) Episode Preview: CJ’s learnings from Jim

(03:40) SEGMENT: CJ's opening “Off the Books” monologue on Instacart’s S-1 and advertising business

(07:18) Start of CJ and Jim’s interview

(08:05) What qualities separate a great CFO from a good CFO?

(10:15) How do CFOs develop accountability as a skill?

(14:26) Sponsor: Netsuite

(15:52) Why CFOs quit

(17:25) The importance of storytelling as a CFO

(22:15) Jim explains first principles

(24:40) The fallacy of a right decision and perfection as a prison

(28:25) What was it like having Reid Hoffman on Mozilla’s board?

(29:39) Jim on what a good relationship between the CFO and their board looks like

(33:30) Transparency requires trust, trust requires transparency

(34:53) Being vulnerable as a CFO

(37:36) A time where Jim had to tell the board the hard truth

(38:57) Key frameworks Jim teaches in his coaching

(44:24) A learning Jim took away from his career at Intuit, Netflix, and Mozilla

(46:20) SEGMENT: Long-ass lightning round: an example of when Jim screwed up on the job, the ideal finance software stack, the craziest thing someone has tried to expense

Mostly metrics
Run the Numbers
Run the Numbers is a twice-weekly podcast about financial metrics and business models, designed for ambitious people operating tech startups. It's a collection of things host CJ Gustafson (CFO at Partstech and writer of Mostly Metrics) has learned and thought about in the trenches as a tech CFO.
This show is meant to serve as a playbook of sorts for the stuff CJ wishes he knew earlier in his career, both from experience and from copying people smarter than himself.
Topics frequently touch upon Startup SaaS Metrics, Annual Budgeting, Financial Forecasting, Headcount, Equity, Dilution, and Fundraising – and how all of these drive business performance and growth.